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Kingofthehill476: /* Completed Categories */

2026-01-20T06:48:17Z

Completed Categories

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	== Completed Categories ==		== Completed Categories ==

	There are currently four 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which are [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], [[13% IcePb]], and [[13% xPb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.		There are currently four 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which are [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], [[13% IcePb]], and [[13% xPb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records. Completed categories use tech such as 10 missile zebs, underwater walljumping without L+R, everest slopespark, and 10pb underflow.

	== Theoretical Other Categories ==		== Theoretical Other Categories ==

Kingofthehill476 at 07:45, 10 January 2026

2026-01-10T07:45:00Z

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	== Completed Categories ==		== Completed Categories ==

	There are currently four 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which is [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], [[13% IcePb]], and [[13% xPb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.		There are currently four 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which are [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], [[13% IcePb]], and [[13% xPb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.

	== Theoretical Other Categories ==		== Theoretical Other Categories ==

Kingofthehill476: Removed xPb as a theoretical (it has been completed)

2026-01-10T06:41:41Z

Removed xPb as a theoretical (it has been completed)

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 == Theoretical Other Categories ==
-Here, some other theoretical options for itemsets in 13% are considered.
+Here, some other theoretical options for itemsets in 13% are considered, though these are likely too difficult to ever be completed by a human.
 === 13% Speed (TAS) ===

Kingofthehill476: Added the completion of 13% xPb

2026-01-10T06:03:44Z

Added the completion of 13% xPb

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	== Completed Categories ==		== Completed Categories ==

	There are currently ~~three~~ 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which is [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], and [[13% ~~IcePb~~]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.		There are currently four 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which is [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], [[13% IcePb]], and [[13% xPb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.

	== Theoretical Other Categories ==		== Theoretical Other Categories ==
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	=== 13% SpeedPb ===		=== 13% SpeedPb ===

	This would be an amalgamation of the IcePb and the Speed options. The spikesuit in Colosseum would not be needed, since a flash suit is gotten from the crystal flash at Draygon. Thus this is technically more humanly viable, but is much harder than the Pb-Pb option. It requires everything that makes 13% speed difficult except for the colosseum shortcharge.		This would be an amalgamation of the IcePb and the Speed options. The spikesuit in Colosseum would not be needed, since a flash suit is gotten from the crystal flash at Draygon. Thus this is technically more humanly viable, but is much harder than the Pb-Pb option. It requires everything that makes 13% speed difficult except for the colosseum shortcharge and the double puyo knockback thing.

	== Hypothetical Categories without L+R or Underflow ==		== Hypothetical Categories without L+R or Underflow ==

Kingofthehill476: /* Theoretical Other Categories */

2026-01-04T02:45:54Z

Theoretical Other Categories

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	=== 13% xPb ===		=== 13% xPb ===

	Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus. However, this category is likely the last ~~13%~~ humanly-doable category that~~'s yet to~~ be completed.		Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus. However, this category is likely the last theoretical humanly-doable 13% category that will ever be completed.

	Here's a potential route that's been confirmed to work without L+R:		Here's a potential route that's been confirmed to work without L+R:

Kingofthehill476 at 02:45, 4 January 2026

2026-01-04T02:45:00Z

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	=== 13% xPb ===		=== 13% xPb ===

	Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus.		Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus. However, this category is likely the last 13% humanly-doable category that's yet to be completed.

	Here's a potential route that's been confirmed to work without L+R:		Here's a potential route that's been confirmed to work without L+R:
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	# Climbing Halfie Climb Room and getting out of Draygon. With the above setups, you can either spark up [[Halfie Climb Room]] or use [[L+R Walljumping]] and then spark out of Draygon. So either a slopespark setup needs to be found to get to the top of Halfie Climb Room (potentially using Zoa and the closing door), or an RTA method for charging a spark in [[Colosseum]] needs to be found.		# Climbing Halfie Climb Room and getting out of Draygon. With the above setups, you can either spark up [[Halfie Climb Room]] or use [[L+R Walljumping]] and then spark out of Draygon. So either a slopespark setup needs to be found to get to the top of Halfie Climb Room (potentially using Zoa and the closing door), or an RTA method for charging a spark in [[Colosseum]] needs to be found.

	The combination of these things would make this category ~~more than twice~~ as hard as 13% PbPb, and by far the hardest category ever completed by a human.		The combination of these things would make this category multiple times as hard as 13% PbPb, and by far the hardest category ever completed by a human.

	=== 13% SpeedPb ===		=== 13% SpeedPb ===

	This would be an amalgamation of the IcePb and the Speed options. The spikesuit in Colosseum would not be needed, since a flash suit is gotten from the crystal flash at Draygon. Thus this is more humanly viable, but is much harder than the Pb-Pb option.		This would be an amalgamation of the IcePb and the Speed options. The spikesuit in Colosseum would not be needed, since a flash suit is gotten from the crystal flash at Draygon. Thus this is technically more humanly viable, but is much harder than the Pb-Pb option. It requires everything that makes 13% speed difficult except for the colosseum shortcharge.

	== Hypothetical Categories without L+R or Underflow ==		== Hypothetical Categories without L+R or Underflow ==

Kingofthehill476: Added route for 13% xPb

2026-01-04T02:24:39Z

Added route for 13% xPb

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	Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus.		Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus.

			Here's a potential route that's been confirmed to work without L+R:
			*Pick up alpha pb, defeat kraid, pick up Xray, and defeat phantoon
			*Generate Rmode cf suit in green brinstar, convert to bluesuit
			*Gmode into mt. everest, spark to the right, save in aqueduct
			*Do the RNG manipulation into the small (87 value) loop
			*Rmode cf suit in crab shaft, convert to bluesuit (must be at 0 e tanks for this)
			*Spark up halfie room, save before draygon
			*Underflow ammo at draygon with 10 pbs
			*Gmode to pass botwoon e tank hallway, evir projectile dboost to exit through west sand hallway
			*Defeat Ridley and MB


	=== 13% Speed (TAS) ===		=== 13% Speed (TAS) ===

Kingofthehill476 at 20:35, 24 December 2025

2025-12-24T20:35:58Z

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	There are no theoretical categories at this time that can avoid both L+R and underflow. There are three options for this that still have a road block preventing it from being possible. All of the following categories would utilize the 10 missile Zebetite kill.		There are no theoretical categories at this time that can avoid both L+R and underflow. There are three options for this that still have a road block preventing it from being possible. All of the following categories would utilize the 10 missile Zebetite kill.

	* '''13% GravCharge:''' This would be similar to 14% Ice, except Ice Beam would be skipped. However, there isn't a known way to get through [[Botwoon Hallway]] without Ice, Speed, X-Ray, or a Power Bomb. Moondance in a 2-tile opening will eventually gain too much speed to fall back into the opening and continue moondance, but won't gain enough speed to clip through the pipes below. TAS dance is a subpixel away from clipping through, but again can't gain enough speed.		* '''13% GravCharge:''' This would be similar to 14% Ice, except Ice Beam would be skipped. However, there isn't a known way to get through [[Botwoon Hallway]] without Ice, Speed, X-Ray, or a Power Bomb. Moondance in a 2-tile opening will eventually gain too much speed to fall back into the opening and continue moondance, but won't gain enough speed to clip through the pipes below. TAS dance is a subpixel away from clipping through, but again can't gain enough speed. This is the second least likely category to be solved without L+R.

	* ''' 13% xCharge:''' If a way can be found to ascend [[Halfie Climb Room]] in Maridia with only X-Ray and Bombs, the current 13% xCharge could be done without L+R. However, there isn't a way to do this, since all means of traversing the room require either Gravity, Ice, Grapple, a spark, or L+R. ~~It's conceivable that a unique~~ form of x-mode ~~could solve this~~, ~~but a~~ solution has yet to be discovered.		* ''' 13% xCharge:''' If a way can be found to ascend [[Halfie Climb Room]] in Maridia with only X-Ray and Bombs, the current 13% xCharge could be done without L+R. However, there isn't a way to do this, since all means of traversing the room require either Gravity, Ice, Grapple, a spark, or L+R. The only way is if some odd form of R-mode, G-mode, or X-mode is found to get up. A solution has yet to be discovered and this is the least likely category to be solved without L+R

	* ''' 13% Speed:''' A human version of the 13% Speed TAS is another option, but it still has barriers from even being theoretically possible. The biggest obstacle for is the colosseum shortcharge (on NTSC) or a weird double knockback thing with a bomb and a puyo (on PAL), which aren't humanly possible yet. A triple frame perfect slopespark in Mt. Everest is required and to avoid L+R, the resulting sparksuit would need to be converted into a bluesuit. That means that pre-maridia spikesuit, tube grav jump, fish tank underwater walljumps no L+R, slopespark → bluesuit conversion, and pitless Colosseum need to be done in one go without saving. This may be the most likely to become possible for humans, but would be the hardest category ever completed by a human.		* ''' 13% Speed:''' A human version of the 13% Speed TAS is another option, but it still has barriers from even being theoretically possible. The biggest obstacle for is the colosseum shortcharge (on NTSC) or a weird double knockback thing with a bomb and a puyo (on PAL), which aren't humanly possible yet. A triple frame perfect slopespark in Mt. Everest is required and to avoid L+R, the resulting sparksuit would need to be converted into a bluesuit. That means that pre-maridia spikesuit, tube grav jump, fish tank underwater walljumps no L+R, slopespark → bluesuit conversion, and pitless Colosseum need to be done in one go without saving. This may be the most likely to become possible for humans, but would be the hardest category ever completed by a human.

Kingofthehill476: Added edu's spreadsheet

2025-12-23T05:49:54Z

Added edu's spreadsheet

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	== Completed Categories ==		== Completed Categories ==

	There are currently three 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which is [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], and [[13% IcePb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories.		There are currently three 13% categories that have been completed RTA, which is [[13% xCharge]], [[13% PbPb]], and [[13% IcePb]]. See these pages for a discussion of these specific categories. Also see [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WViqg4XGGtGQo0uQ16SogENdTBAaqPqqZUYoZJbu7Pk/edit?gid=1386063460#gid=1386063460 this spreadsheet] for a current list of all 14% and 13% records.

	== Theoretical Other Categories ==		== Theoretical Other Categories ==
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	# Getting past Botwoon ETank. The current RTA setup for Everest Slopespark needs 1+2 Energy+Reserve Tanks. Thus, this either requires an RTA setup for Everest Slopespark with fewer tanks (by lining up health drops), or a suitless slopespark setup in [[Botwoon Energy Tank Room]] to clear the speed blocks.		# Getting past Botwoon ETank. The current RTA setup for Everest Slopespark needs 1+2 Energy+Reserve Tanks. Thus, this either requires an RTA setup for Everest Slopespark with fewer tanks (by lining up health drops), or a suitless slopespark setup in [[Botwoon Energy Tank Room]] to clear the speed blocks.
	# Climbing Halfie Climb Room and getting out of Draygon. With the above setups, you can either spark up [[Halfie Climb Room]] or use [[L+R Walljumping]] and then spark out of Draygon. So either a slopespark setup needs to be found to get to the top of Halfie Climb Room (potentially using Zoa and the closing door), or an RTA method for charging a spark in [[Colosseum]] needs to be found.		# Climbing Halfie Climb Room and getting out of Draygon. With the above setups, you can either spark up [[Halfie Climb Room]] or use [[L+R Walljumping]] and then spark out of Draygon. So either a slopespark setup needs to be found to get to the top of Halfie Climb Room (potentially using Zoa and the closing door), or an RTA method for charging a spark in [[Colosseum]] needs to be found.

			The combination of these things would make this category more than twice as hard as 13% PbPb, and by far the hardest category ever completed by a human.

	=== 13% SpeedPb ===		=== 13% SpeedPb ===

Kingofthehill476: 13% pbpb completed

2025-12-22T23:40:56Z

13% pbpb completed

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	Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus.		Traditional rules across the speedrunning community ban the use of simultaneous Left+Right inputs, since this usually requires hardware modification. Given that suitless Maridia without the use of Left+Right requires either Ice Beam, Gravity Suit, or Hi-Jump Boots, the next most likely candidate for human-completable 13% categories under these conditions is based on the [[14% xChargeless]] category that uses [[Yellow Suit Glitch#Draygon *CF\|Draygon ammo underflow]]. This is the same as IcePb, but with a harder Maridia. If the goal is to avoid L+R, then some strange shenanigans may be required that would be quite time-consuming. Thus, IcePb was the first focus.

	~~=== 13% Pb-Pb ===~~

	~~If Left+Right is allowed, the "PB+PB" branch is the next most likely candidate, with the main obstacle being the spark suit generation at [[Mt. Everest]], as seen in the TAS.~~

	Note by converting the resultant spark suit into a blue suit with a crystal spark, Left+Right is arguably not needed. However, to complete the category without the use of Left+Right would require extensive single-wall underwater walljumping without Hi-Jump Boots, specifically [[Fish Tank Climb]] without L+R walljumping.

	=== 13% Speed (TAS) ===		=== 13% Speed (TAS) ===